Discussion:
Command changes based on situations
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Stormin Mormon
2016-05-21 19:03:44 UTC
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Thinking some on the Lights Out book. There
was another one (can't remember, Patriots or
Gray Nineties?) when someone in a light air
plane got shot, and needed medical care. The
command changed from the usual man, Trassel,
and the resident medic gave orders for a
while. Fire up the generator, bring me med
stuff.

Concept worth considering, if your survival
group has different talents. What kinds of
emergency might cause a change of command?

Medical
Severe weather
Fire fighting
Combat invasion

And what others?
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Winston_Smith
2016-05-21 19:47:28 UTC
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Post by Stormin Mormon
a light air
plane got shot, and needed medical care. The
command changed from the usual man, Trassel,
and the resident medic gave orders for a
while. Fire up the generator, bring me med
stuff.
I suspect you misunderstood the story, and the group leader remained
in overall charge.

The usual (practical) arrangement is for a specialist to give orders
within their specialty with a primary leader having oversight of
everything.

No leader can be expected to be competent, at the specialist level, in
all fields. If they were, a group wouldn't need specialists.

The hospital administrator does not oversee details of every surgery.
Doesn't even get into day to day maintenance of supply stocks.

To put it in the old TV terms you seem to use as a survival reference,
Coronal Potter does not tell Hawkeye how many sponges to use or how
many stitches to use closing a wound.

In any case, a fundamental part of group organization would be to
define the chain of command and succession (among a great many other
ground rules). This is not a new or novel concept and should be
completed before the group actually becomes a group.
CanopyCo
2016-05-22 00:04:22 UTC
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Standard operating procedure is that the man that is in charge of a job is in charge, despite who is in charge if the group.

It would be bad business to put someone who has no knowledge about a job in charge of that job, thus the above stated procedure.
news16
2016-05-22 05:46:46 UTC
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Post by CanopyCo
Standard operating procedure is that the man that is in charge of a job
is in charge, despite who is in charge if the group.
It would be bad business to put someone who has no knowledge about a job
in charge of that job, thus the above stated procedure.
Weirdly, that seems to be the normal situation.
CanopyCo
2016-05-22 12:22:31 UTC
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Post by news16
Post by CanopyCo
Standard operating procedure is that the man that is in charge of a job
is in charge, despite who is in charge if the group.
It would be bad business to put someone who has no knowledge about a job
in charge of that job, thus the above stated procedure.
Weirdly, that seems to be the normal situation.
It should be, but often isn’t.

I’ve been on several construction jobs where the guy in charge didn’t know squat about how to actually do the job.
But he sure thought that he should determine what tools and supplies we needed.
Usually based on how much money he can save by short sheeting the job.

The worst is the kids that got given a construction company by their old man but doesn’t actually know squat about it.
They set back in the office and think that they know more about what is needed on cite then the guy that is actually doing the work.
news16
2016-05-22 13:33:36 UTC
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Post by CanopyCo
I’ve been on several construction jobs where the guy in charge didn’t
know squat about how to actually do the job.
But he sure thought that he should determine what tools and supplies we needed.
Usually based on how much money he can save by short sheeting the job.
The worst is the kids that got given a construction company by their old
man but doesn’t actually know squat about it.
They set back in the office and think that they know more about what is
needed on cite then the guy that is actually doing the work.
When we were door knocking banks for a home loan, they were literally
throwing money at us. Wisely we said no and we'll just take a loan for a
starter hovel thank you.

So refreshing when you can say "Nope, I cant manage that" and just walk
out the door or "Now that yo mention it, I haven't been happy about your
management either so why don't we go our separate ways"

Fsck me, you should see em squirm. The first guy almost hit the floor
falling out of his chair. The second time, the manager followed me as
soon as they found a replacement for him, Sweet.

Living frugaly and not being forced to accept any job is a wise tactic.
CanopyCo
2016-05-23 13:14:27 UTC
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Post by news16
Post by CanopyCo
I’ve been on several construction jobs where the guy in charge didn’t
know squat about how to actually do the job.
But he sure thought that he should determine what tools and supplies we needed.
Usually based on how much money he can save by short sheeting the job.
The worst is the kids that got given a construction company by their old
man but doesn’t actually know squat about it.
They set back in the office and think that they know more about what is
needed on cite then the guy that is actually doing the work.
When we were door knocking banks for a home loan, they were literally
throwing money at us. Wisely we said no and we'll just take a loan for a
starter hovel thank you.
So refreshing when you can say "Nope, I cant manage that" and just walk
out the door or "Now that yo mention it, I haven't been happy about your
management either so why don't we go our separate ways"
Fsck me, you should see em squirm. The first guy almost hit the floor
falling out of his chair. The second time, the manager followed me as
soon as they found a replacement for him, Sweet.
Living frugaly and not being forced to accept any job is a wise tactic.
I know what you mean there.
I got plum insulted when I last went to the bank and tried to get a home loan.
They started talking about how I needed to put up everything that I own in order to get a loan that is about equal to 3 months pay.

I pointed out that I have a 850 credit score and that I have 5 different credit cards that are offering lone of $10 thousand with 0 interest for a year.
Then I told them that they just lost the interest that the credit card is going to get because I am not going to even consider putting up with them and their bullshit.

I did nearly have to go to kick ass mode when SS tried to pull some shit about how they won’t consider buying a home on a credit card to be a home loan.
I then pointed out that it was the only way that someone on SS could borrow the money to buy a house and that if the weren’t so stupid they would just look at the card bill and see where the money went.

After calling them lots of unpleasant names regarding how their rules were just excuses to not give assistance to home owners, the decided to allow the deduction.
Don
2016-05-23 16:44:52 UTC
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Post by CanopyCo
Post by news16
I’ve been on several construction jobs where the guy in charge didn’t
know squat about how to actually do the job.
But he sure thought that he should determine what tools and supplies we needed.
Usually based on how much money he can save by short sheeting the job.
The worst is the kids that got given a construction company by their old
man but doesn’t actually know squat about it.
They set back in the office and think that they know more about what is
needed on cite then the guy that is actually doing the work.
When we were door knocking banks for a home loan, they were literally
throwing money at us. Wisely we said no and we'll just take a loan for a
starter hovel thank you.
So refreshing when you can say "Nope, I cant manage that" and just walk
out the door or "Now that yo mention it, I haven't been happy about your
management either so why don't we go our separate ways"
Fsck me, you should see em squirm. The first guy almost hit the floor
falling out of his chair. The second time, the manager followed me as
soon as they found a replacement for him, Sweet.
Living frugaly and not being forced to accept any job is a wise tactic.
I know what you mean there.
I got plum insulted when I last went to the bank and tried to get a home loan.
They started talking about how I needed to put up everything that I own in order to get a loan that is about equal to 3 months pay.
I pointed out that I have a 850 credit score and that I have 5 different credit cards that are offering lone of $10 thousand with 0 interest for a year.
Then I told them that they just lost the interest that the credit card is going to get because I am not going to even consider putting up with them and their bullshit.
I did nearly have to go to kick ass mode when SS tried to pull some shit about how they won’t consider buying a home on a credit card to be a home loan.
I then pointed out that it was the only way that someone on SS could borrow the money to buy a house and that if the weren’t so stupid they would just look at the card bill and see where the money went.
After calling them lots of unpleasant names regarding how their rules were just excuses to not give assistance to home owners, the decided to allow the deduction.
I had the silly idea that one could go to a mortgage company and get
pre-qualified for a certain amount, then be looking for property on my
own before involving an agent. I was approved for a VA loan, so
thought I had an angle on it there. Retired on fixed income for ten
years, free of debts, and credit rating probably about 750.

But when I was referred to my Alaska USA Federal Credit Union mortgage
company, they started with the "green" and "yellow" lights about
getting pre-approved, pending submitting more personal info like past
IRS records. Then it was noting that the VA loan avenue wasn't going
to be as economical as the regular federal loans, like Fanny Mae. As
I could finance with a 10% down, they started showing me pictures of
low-priced property I already saw on Internet sites, but not at areas
I said I was interested in and very low priced.

So I concluded that, at least to some extent, their operation was
selling property, not determining pre-approvals, and I left, thanking
them for their time.

I'm still interested in buying property of a certain kind and thinking
about buying with 10% down that may not meet mortgage requirements for
insurance and utilities. In Alaska, lots of properties being sold
with buildings described "as is," not meeting water and septic codes.
So you could do improvements yourself, maybe on the basis of "off
grid."
Stormin Mormon
2016-05-23 17:33:32 UTC
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Post by Don
So I concluded that, at least to some extent, their operation was
selling property, not determining pre-approvals, and I left, thanking
them for their time.
I'm still interested in buying property of a certain kind and thinking
about buying with 10% down that may not meet mortgage requirements for
insurance and utilities. In Alaska, lots of properties being sold
with buildings described "as is," not meeting water and septic codes.
So you could do improvements yourself, maybe on the basis of "off
grid."
Would that situation require a command change?
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learn more about Jesus
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Gunner Asch
2016-05-24 00:00:18 UTC
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Post by Don
Post by CanopyCo
Post by news16
I’ve been on several construction jobs where the guy in charge didn’t
know squat about how to actually do the job.
But he sure thought that he should determine what tools and supplies we needed.
Usually based on how much money he can save by short sheeting the job.
The worst is the kids that got given a construction company by their old
man but doesn’t actually know squat about it.
They set back in the office and think that they know more about what is
needed on cite then the guy that is actually doing the work.
When we were door knocking banks for a home loan, they were literally
throwing money at us. Wisely we said no and we'll just take a loan for a
starter hovel thank you.
So refreshing when you can say "Nope, I cant manage that" and just walk
out the door or "Now that yo mention it, I haven't been happy about your
management either so why don't we go our separate ways"
Fsck me, you should see em squirm. The first guy almost hit the floor
falling out of his chair. The second time, the manager followed me as
soon as they found a replacement for him, Sweet.
Living frugaly and not being forced to accept any job is a wise tactic.
I know what you mean there.
I got plum insulted when I last went to the bank and tried to get a home loan.
They started talking about how I needed to put up everything that I own in order to get a loan that is about equal to 3 months pay.
I pointed out that I have a 850 credit score and that I have 5 different credit cards that are offering lone of $10 thousand with 0 interest for a year.
Then I told them that they just lost the interest that the credit card is going to get because I am not going to even consider putting up with them and their bullshit.
I did nearly have to go to kick ass mode when SS tried to pull some shit about how they won’t consider buying a home on a credit card to be a home loan.
I then pointed out that it was the only way that someone on SS could borrow the money to buy a house and that if the weren’t so stupid they would just look at the card bill and see where the money went.
After calling them lots of unpleasant names regarding how their rules were just excuses to not give assistance to home owners, the decided to allow the deduction.
I had the silly idea that one could go to a mortgage company and get
pre-qualified for a certain amount, then be looking for property on my
own before involving an agent. I was approved for a VA loan, so
thought I had an angle on it there. Retired on fixed income for ten
years, free of debts, and credit rating probably about 750.
But when I was referred to my Alaska USA Federal Credit Union mortgage
company, they started with the "green" and "yellow" lights about
getting pre-approved, pending submitting more personal info like past
IRS records. Then it was noting that the VA loan avenue wasn't going
to be as economical as the regular federal loans, like Fanny Mae. As
I could finance with a 10% down, they started showing me pictures of
low-priced property I already saw on Internet sites, but not at areas
I said I was interested in and very low priced.
So I concluded that, at least to some extent, their operation was
selling property, not determining pre-approvals, and I left, thanking
them for their time.
I'm still interested in buying property of a certain kind and thinking
about buying with 10% down that may not meet mortgage requirements for
insurance and utilities. In Alaska, lots of properties being sold
with buildings described "as is," not meeting water and septic codes.
So you could do improvements yourself, maybe on the basis of "off
grid."
Keep in mind..that "improvements" can cost as much or MORE than the
cost of the property, particularly in Alaska.

Just a heads up.

Gunner
D-FENS
2016-05-24 02:40:09 UTC
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Post by Stormin Mormon
Thinking some on the Lights Out book. There
was another one (can't remember, Patriots or
Gray Nineties?) when someone in a light air
plane got shot, and needed medical care. The
command changed from the usual man, Trassel,
and the resident medic gave orders for a
while. Fire up the generator, bring me med
stuff.
Concept worth considering, if your survival
group has different talents. What kinds of
emergency might cause a change of command?
Medical
Severe weather
Fire fighting
Combat invasion
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana
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news16
2016-05-24 04:16:02 UTC
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Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
rbowman
2016-05-24 04:38:57 UTC
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Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
Unfortunately the debacle at Gallipoli didn't leave the First Lord of
the Admiralty with a new career as a fishmonger crying 'cock-ups and
muddles, alive alive-o'
news16
2016-05-24 07:13:40 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
Unfortunately the debacle at Gallipoli didn't leave the First Lord of
the Admiralty with a new career as a fishmonger crying 'cock-ups and
muddles, alive alive-o'
Sadly, no.

You have to wonder how much the lack of alternate communications
contribute to that lack of justice.

Winnie had the gift of the gad and was heavily self promoted as a war
correspondent from Boer War days. He made more money from that, than his
position as a Cavalry Leutennant, which mummy supplimented. Was also know
to never let his desire to be "where the action was" be subservient to
his military position.



Given that the "Battle_of Isandlwana" happened a century after the
British learned how to move through foreign lands on the NW Frontier, it
beggars disbelieve that it happened.

OTOH, it was probably the same arrogance that lead to B-of-I as to
Gallipoli. Sadly it is the common solider that suffers rather than the
toffs playing at soliders.
rbowman
2016-05-24 14:01:47 UTC
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Post by news16
OTOH, it was probably the same arrogance that lead to B-of-I as to
Gallipoli. Sadly it is the common solider that suffers rather than the
toffs playing at soliders.
No sweat when you are just going up against a bunch of wogs. We'll be
back at the club before sunset for some pink gin. Georgie Boy wasn't
much of a reader or he wouldn't have gone to play with the Wily Pathan
or the Iraqis nor would several Presidents starting with Eisenhower
diddled around in southeast Asia.

I see Obama wants to sell Vietnam weapons as a proxy against China in
his Asian pivot. I hope those guys have read their history and remember
what happened to Diem and other US sponsored regimes.
Stormin Mormon
2016-05-24 21:19:12 UTC
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Post by rbowman
Post by news16
OTOH, it was probably the same arrogance that lead to B-of-I as to
Gallipoli. Sadly it is the common solider that suffers rather than the
toffs playing at soliders.
No sweat when you are just going up against a bunch of wogs. We'll be
back at the club before sunset for some pink gin. Georgie Boy wasn't
much of a reader or he wouldn't have gone to play with the Wily Pathan
or the Iraqis nor would several Presidents starting with Eisenhower
diddled around in southeast Asia.
I see Obama wants to sell Vietnam weapons as a proxy against China in
his Asian pivot. I hope those guys have read their history and remember
what happened to Diem and other US sponsored regimes.
Will command change, due to situations?
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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
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.
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news16
2016-05-25 05:38:40 UTC
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Post by Stormin Mormon
Post by rbowman
Post by news16
OTOH, it was probably the same arrogance that lead to B-of-I as to
Gallipoli. Sadly it is the common solider that suffers rather than the
toffs playing at soliders.
No sweat when you are just going up against a bunch of wogs. We'll be
back at the club before sunset for some pink gin. Georgie Boy wasn't
much of a reader or he wouldn't have gone to play with the Wily Pathan
or the Iraqis nor would several Presidents starting with Eisenhower
diddled around in southeast Asia.
I see Obama wants to sell Vietnam weapons as a proxy against China in
his Asian pivot. I hope those guys have read their history and remember
what happened to Diem and other US sponsored regimes.
Will command change, due to situations?
If they have a real democracy.
Otherwise, probably by the usual "invasion".
D-FENS
2016-05-24 23:24:47 UTC
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Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
You're a very confused troll. Go back and read what I typed. I was
addressing Christopher "learn more about Jesus" Young's post about a
change in command. Don't try to claim that I said something different
from what I typed.
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news16
2016-05-25 05:36:53 UTC
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Post by D-FENS
Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
You're a very confused troll. Go back and read what I typed. I was
addressing Christopher "learn more about Jesus" Young's post about a
change in command. Don't try to claim that I said something different
from what I typed.
well, you didn't address his post of choice leadership decided by
situation. Also, whilst a debacle happened, there wasn't a clear decisive
change of command, just political fiddling, like Gallipoli.
D-FENS
2016-05-25 18:20:54 UTC
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Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
Post by news16
Post by D-FENS
This is probably too lengthy a read for you, but it addresses "combat
invasion" and tells the story of one of the greatest losses in the
British Empire, aside from maybe Gallipoli. A change of command
resulted from the debacle.
Err, tother way: The debacle resulted from the chain of command?
Usually debacles change the chain of command.
You're a very confused troll. Go back and read what I typed. I was
addressing Christopher "learn more about Jesus" Young's post about a
change in command. Don't try to claim that I said something different
from what I typed.
well, you didn't address his post of choice leadership decided by
situation. Also, whilst a debacle happened, there wasn't a clear decisive
change of command, just political fiddling, like Gallipoli.
You just didn't read in depth. There were other links from within the
original link, as per the one about Evelyn Wood, for example.
Commissions were purchased in those days, and if one didn't like one's
commanding officer, one could buy his way out of an assignment. If an
officer performed disgracefully, he was replaced by someone more
competent. Change in command is writ large in the link you deleted.
(It's interesting that Stormin' was completely uninterested in my reply
to his post, which was the first to actually address his question.)
Here's a link within that link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evelyn_Wood_%28British_Army_officer%29


Evelyn Wood (British Army officer)

Field Marshal Sir Henry Evelyn Wood, VC, GCB, GCMG (9 February 1838 – 2
December 1919) was a British Army officer. After an early career in the
Royal Navy, Wood joined the British Army. He served in several major
conflicts including the Indian Mutiny where, as a lieutenant, he was
awarded the Victoria Cross, the highest and most prestigious award for
valour in the face of the enemy that is awarded to British and
Commonwealth forces, for rescuing a local merchant from a band of
robbers who had taken their captive into the jungle, where they intended
to hang him. Wood further served as a commander in several other
conflicts, notably the Third Anglo-Ashanti War, the Anglo-Zulu War, the
First Boer War and the Mahdist War. His service in Egypt led to his
appointment as Sirdar where he reorganised the Egyptian Army. He
returned to Britain to serve as General Officer Commanding-in-Chief
Aldershot Command from 1889, as Quartermaster-General to the Forces from
1893 and as Adjutant General from 1897. His last appointment was as
General Officer Commanding-in-Chief Southern Command from 1905.
Ancestry and early life[edit]

Wood in 1852 when in the Royal Navy (from a painting by Lady Wood)

Wood was born at Cressing near Braintree, Essex as the fifth and
youngest son of Sir John Page Wood, 2nd Baronet,[1] a clergyman,[2] and
Emma Caroline Michell, daughter of Charles Collier Michell.[3] Wood was
an elder brother of Katherine Parnell (Kitty O'Shea). Sir Matthew Wood,
1st Baronet, was his grandfather and Lord Chancellor William Wood, 1st
Baron Hatherley was an uncle. His maternal grandfather had been an
admiral in the Portuguese navy. One of his mother’s brothers was a
British admiral, another rose to be Surveyor-General of Cape Colony.[4]
Wood was educated at Marlborough College but ran away after an unjust
beating.[1]
Early military career[edit]
Crimea[edit]

Like his near contemporary John French, Wood began his career in the
Royal Navy, serving under his uncle Captain Frederick Mitchell on HMS
Queen, but vertigo stopped him going aloft.[2] Wood served as a
midshipman in the Crimean War during the siege of Sebastopol,[1] in
Captain William Peel’s 1,400 strong naval brigade, whose job was to man
some guns on a ridge opposite Sebastopol.[5] He was at Inkerman and aged
16, he was seriously wounded in an attack on the Redan,[1] almost losing
his left arm, which doctors wanted to amputate. Wood was mentioned in
despatches and received his first, but unsuccessful, recommendation for
a VC.[2]

Invalided home with a letter of recommendation from Lord Raglan, written
five days before his own death, Wood left the Royal Navy to join the
British Army, becoming a cornet (without purchase) in the 13th Light
Dragoons on 7 September 1855[6] and reporting to their depot with his
arm still in a sling.[2] He had only £250 a year in private income,
rather than the £400 needed, and was soon in debt.[5] His uncle paid for
his promotion to lieutenant (1 February 1856).[1][7]

Wood returned to the Crimean Theatre (January 1856) but within a month
was in hospital at Scutari with pneumonia and typhoid. His parents were
told he was dying, so his mother arrived on 20 March 1856 only to find
one of Florence Nightingale’s nurses striking him. He was so emaciated
that his hip bones were poking through his skin. Against medical advice
he was brought home to England to recover.[2]
India[edit]

Wood considered joining the French Foreign Legion, but instead became a
lieutenant in the 17th Lancers to gain passage to India.[1] He reached
Bombay on 21 December 1858.[8] While out hunting he was attacked by a
wounded tiger – it was shot in the nick of time by a hunting companion;
– he also rode a giraffe belonging to a friendly Indian prince to win a
bet with a brother officer - he stayed on long enough to win the bet,
but was trampled badly, the animal's rear hoof breaking through both
cheeks, crushing his nose.[1][9]

In India, Wood saw action at Rajghur, Sindwaho, Kharee, and Barode
during the Indian Mutiny. On 19 October 1858 during an action at
Sindwaho while in command of a troop of light cavalry, twenty-year-old
Lieutenant Wood attacked a body of rebels, whom he routed almost
single-handedly. At Sindhora, with the help of a daffadar and a sowar,
he rescued a local merchant from a band of robbers who had taken their
captive into the jungle, where they had intended to hang him. For this
act of selfless bravery, Wood was awarded the Victoria Cross.[10]

His citation read:

For having, on the 19th of October, 1858, during Action at
Sindwaho, when in command of a Troop of the 3rd Light Cavalry, attacked
with much gallantry, almost single handed, a body of Rebels who had made
a stand, whom he routed. Also, for having subsequently, near Siudhora,
gallantly advanced with a Duffadar and Sowar of Beatson's Horse, and
rescued from a band of robbers, a Potail, Chemmum Singh, whom they had
captured and carried off to the Jungles, where they intended to hang
him.[11]

Wood also saw action at Kurai (25 October 1859). He became temporarily
deaf for a week whilst studying Hindustani at Poona, which he attributed
at the time to overwork. In December 1859 he joined the 2nd Central
India Horse, whose main function was the suppression of banditry. In
this role he had to deal with an incipient mutiny and sort out the
regimental accounts. He was invalided back to Britain in November 1860
with fever, sunstroke and ear problems.[9][12]
Staff College[edit]

On 16 April 1861, Wood was promoted to captain.[13] His captaincy cost
him £1,000 official payment to the government and £1,500 “over
regulation” to buy out his predecessor.[14] He was promoted again this
time to brevet major (for services in India) on 19 August 1862.[15]

Wood passed the exam to enter the new Staff College, Camberley, but
another officer from 17th Lancers had higher marks and as at that time
only one officer was permitted from each regiment each year, Wood had to
transfer to the 73rd (Perthshire) Regiment of Foot on 21 October
1862.[16] He took up his place in January 1863, and graduated in 1864.
Whilst at Staff College he took part in boxing lessons.[14]

In the autumn of 1865 the 73rd were ordered to Hong Kong, but Wood
disliked the new commanding officer so much that he paid £500 to
transfer into the 17th (Leicestershire) Regiment of Foot.[17] Having
just written to propose to his future wife, he read in 1867 that
“General Napier” was to lead an expedition to Abyssinia; he packed his
bags and went to London to volunteer, but then learnt that this was not
to be General William Napier whom he knew from India, but General Robert
Napier, whom he did not know and who was unlikely to grant him a staff
position.[18]

After a stint as an aide-de-camp in Dublin, where the damp climate
brought on a recurrence of fever and ear trouble,[14] Wood was given a
staff position until 1871. He was Deputy Assistant
Quartermaster-General, then brigade major of North Camp at
Aldershot.[18] In the summer of 1871 he paid £2,000 to purchase a full
majority in the 90th Light Infantry,[19] one of the last such
transactions before the purchase of commissions system was
abolished.[12] Nursing his children through diphtheria (he had sent his
pregnant wife away), he was prescribed morphine for insomnia and nearly
died of an overdose.[20] Evelyn Wood was promoted to brevet
lieutenant-colonel on 19 June 1873.[21]
Imperial wars[edit]
Third Ashanti War[edit]

In 1874, Wood served in the Third Anglo-Ashanti War,[12] commanding a
flank at the Battle of Amoaful (21 January 1874) where he was
wounded.[12] and at the Battle of Esaman. He helped recruit a regiment
from among the coastal African tribes, although he wrote of the Fantis
that “it would be difficult to imagine a more cowardly, useless lot of
men”. He did, however, discourage British officers from using physical
abuse on them.[22]

He was wounded just above the heart, confining him to a stretcher for a
day. Relying on chlorodyne and laudanum to keep going, he was ordered to
lead the sick and wounded back to the coast. It was erroneously reported
in the London press that he had been captured and probably flayed
alive.[23] He was appointed a Companion of the Order of the Bath on 31
March 1874.[24]

Wood presented two African chieftains with a walking stick, a hat and an
umbrella. Twenty-two years later, later his eldest son was also in
Ashanti. While there, he saw a native carrying a stick which the man
would not sell, saying it belonged to his chief. On closer inspection,
Wood Junior read an inscription; 'Presented to Chief Andoo by Colonel
Evelyn Wood, 1874.'[25] He was promoted brevet colonel on 1 April
1874[26] and was appointed Superintendent of Garrison Instruction at
Aldershot, a position he held until 1878.[12] A man of modest means for
much of his life, Wood took his profession very seriously – like many
who had served under Garnet Wolseley, 1st Viscount in the Ashanti War he
was a member of the reforming “Wolseley ring”, although the two men were
never on particularly good terms.[2] With a young family to support but
not hopeful of getting a staff position, Wood had studied law. He was
called to the Bar at the Middle Temple in 1874.[12][20]
Zulu War[edit]

In 1878 Wood fought with the 90th Light Infantry under
Lieutenant-General Thesiger (who later became Lord Chelmsford) in Natal.
Evelyn Wood was employed as field officer of 90th clashed with the Gaika
tribe in the last of the Battle of Tutu Bush (May 1878) during the Xhosa
Wars.[12][27] He was promoted to the substantive rank of
lieutenant-colonel on 13 November 1878.[28]

In January 1879, Wood took part in the Anglo-Zulu War and was given
command of the 3,000-strong 4th column on the left flank the army when
they crossed the Zulu frontier. Defeat of other British forces at
Isandlwana would force Wood to retreat to fortified positions at
Kambula. Defeated at Hlobane on 28 March 1879, where he had his horse
shot from under him. He recovered and the following day decisively beat
the Zulus at Kambula (29 March 1879).[12] He was preferred for the local
rank of brigadier-general on 3 April and also took part in the final
battle at Ulundi.[29]

At the end of the war, Wood headed the negotiations which took place on
Conference Hill. The Zulus squatted round the negotiating tent in a
large crescent. According to one witness, they were 'apathetic'. The
tension rose when Wood emerged from the tent and ordered his band to
play 'God Save the Queen'. The accompanying soldiers gave good cheer;
the bandmaster was then told to play something lively. Being Irish, the
master 'treated them to 'Patrick's Day in the Morning'. The effect was
magical; one after another, the Zulus rose and, swaying and dancing,
swarmed around the British soldiers on their horses. Of particular
interest to the Zulus was the bass drummer whom they seemed to greatly
admire. Their negotiations were successful.[30] He was also advanced to
Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath on 23 June 1879.[31][32]

Wood was paid £100 for a series of London newspaper articles, his first
published work. By now Wood was so deaf from various fevers that an
officer had to accompany him at night as he might not hear a sentry’s
challenge. He was disappointed not to be made a major-general. Evelyn
Wood and his wife were obliged by the Queen to take a six-month trip to
escort the former Empress Eugenie to see the spot where her son, the
Prince Imperial, whose safety had aroused national concern, had been
killed. To his annoyance he received no pay whatsoever for this mission,
despite being official business at the Queen's request.[27] Wood
recommended Redvers Buller for his VC after the Zulu War.[33] Wood was
briefly placed on the staff in Ireland and in that role was again given
the local rank of brigadier-general in December 1879.[34]
First Boer War[edit]

Wood was then posted to command the Chatham Garrison ranked again in
January 1880 as brigadier-general.[35] With the First Boer War reaching
a crescendo, he was sent back to South Africa in January 1881, again
with the local rank of brigadier-general,[36] as second-in-command to
Sir George Colley, Governor and Commander-in-Chief in Natal, succeeding
him after his defeat and death at Majuba Hill (27 February 1881),[37]
earning promotion to the local rank of major-general.[38] Wood had
intended to renew the fight to relieve the towns under siege, but was
ordered by the Cabinet to make peace. Wood wrote to his wife that the
treaty would make him ”the best abused man in England for a time”.
Wolseley (who thought the treaty “infamous” and “ignominious”) and other
officers thought he should have resigned his commission rather than sign
it. He had to travel to Pretoria, and was injured on the way when the
horses of his carriage bolted, was offered but declined, the
Governorship of Natal.[39] In April 1881 he was appointed to a
commission of inquiry into all matters relating to the future settlement
of the Transvaal Territory.[40]

Although the peace negotiations were an embarrassing reverse for
Britain, they brought Wood political and royal favour.[2] The Queen
thought highly of him (and Buller). Wood had already impressed Lord
Beaconsfield (Prime Minister at the time), who had met him at the
Queen’s suggestion after the Zulu War, and now impressed William
Gladstone, the current Prime Minister.[41] He was promoted permanently
to the rank of major-general (30 November 1881)[42] and remained in
Natal until February 1882, awarded a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of
St Michael and St George on 17 February 1882[43] before returning to
England and to the Chatham command.[44]
Egypt and Sudan[edit]

Wood was given command of a brigade in the Egyptian expedition to
suppress the Urabi Revolt. However, his brigade remained behind in
Alexandria, so he missed the Battle of Tel el-Kebir.[45] After a brief
visit to England in November 1882[46] he returned to be Sirdar
(commander) of the Egyptian Army from December 1882 until 1885, during
which period he thoroughly reorganised it, with Francis Grenfell and
Kitchener working under him.[37] He had 25 British officers (who were
given extra pay and Egyptian ranks a grade or two higher than their
British ones) and a few NCOs, although to Wood’s annoyance Lt-Gen
Stephenson, commander of the British occupation forces, was confirmed as
his senior in June 1884. During the cholera epidemic of 1883, British
officers earned the respect of Egyptian soldiers by nursing them. Wood
gave Sundays off from drill as well as Fridays (the Muslim holy day), so
that Egyptian soldiers would see that their British officers took their
own religion seriously.[45]

In the Gordon Relief Expedition (see Mahdist War) Wood was in charge of
the line of communication.[47] He commanded the British at the Battle of
Ginnis in December 1885. He was the only officer to be given an
important command despite advising against Wolseley’s choice of the Nile
route. Wood briefly took Redvers Buller’s place as Chief of Staff as
Buller had to take charge of the desert column after Stewart was
mortally wounded at Abu Klea. In this job Wood became unpopular for
employing female nurses (against the advice of army doctors at that
time) and quarrelled with his friend Buller when Wood recommended a more
cautious advance which would give time to build up supply depots.[48]

By this stage Wood was so deaf that Wolseley complained he had become
hoarse from shouting at him. Wolseley wrote of Wood that “he has done
worse than I expected” and in his journal described him as “the vainest
but by no means the ablest of men. He is as cunning as a first class
female diplomatist … (but has not) real sound judgement…… intrigues with
newspaper correspondents … he has not the brains nor the disposition nor
the coolness nor the firmness of purpose to enable him to take command
in any war … a very second rate general … whose two most remarkable
traits (a)re extreme vanity & unbounded self-seeking" although a letter
to his wife (complaining that Wood was “a very puzzle-headed fellow”,
wanting in method and vain) suggests that Wolseley still bore Wood a
grudge about the peace after Majuba Hill. Ill once again, Wood handed
over the job of Sirdar to Francis Grenfell. To his annoyance, he
received no honours from the Nile expedition.[45]
Home commands[edit]
Aldershot[edit]

A coloured photograph from Celebrities of the Army, London 1900

In 1886 Wood returned to Britain to take charge of Eastern Command at
Colchester. Then, from 1 January 1889 to 8 October 1893 he was General
Officer Commanding of Aldershot Command, one of the most important posts
in the army at home.[49] He was promoted to lieutenant-general (1 April
1890) and advanced to Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the Bath on 30
May 1891.[50]

At Aldershot Wood was concerned with the well-being of both troops and
animals, recommending the rebuilding of barracks and training of army
cooks. At Aldershot he arranged for sick men’s food to be prepared in
hospitals rather than brought in tins from their own units. He
experimented with training soldiers on bicycles, night marches (in the
teeth of opposition, particularly from the Duke of Cambridge, who
thought it might interfere with horses’ rest) and negotiated with the
railway companies for cheap rail tickets for soldiers going on leave. He
also carried out extensive training manoeuvres for the regulars under
his command and for Militia and Volunteer forces.[51] He made
contributions to a Baptist chapel for a time, and ensured that Baptist
services were as well publicised as those of other denominations. With
the help of some high-ranking Roman Catholic friends, he agreed on an
ecumenical service for Irish regiments which was acceptable both to
Roman Catholic soldiers and their Anglican officers and chaplains.[52]

While Wood was at Aldershot his aides-de-camp included Captain Edward
Roderic 'Roddy' Owen (Lancashire Fusiliers), a famous amateur jockey,
which his biographer has identified as due to Wood's keen interest as
rider and foxhunter,[53] and Major Hew Dalrymple Fanshawe, 19th
Hussars.[54] Fanshawe (who commanded V Corps during World War I), later
became Wood's son-in-law, marrying his elder daughter Anna Pauline Mary
on 25 July 1894.[55]
Administering the Army[edit]

Wood saw further staff service at the War Office as
Quartermaster-General to the Forces from 1893 to 1897.[37] He was
promoted to full general on 26 March 1895 and was Adjutant-General to
the Forces from 1897[56] to 1901.[37] His duties in the 1890s were
similar to those of a Chief of the General Staff, had such a job then
existed.[2] He also served as Deputy Lieutenant of Essex from 10 August
1897.[57] and granted the freedom of the Borough of Chelmsford in
1903.[58] He was also the responsible colonel of the 5th Battalion, the
Essex Regiment.[59]

Wood wrote several books at this time by writing each day for an hour
before daybreak – in 1895 he published a book on the Crimean War, in
1896 a book on Cavalry at Waterloo, and in 1897 Achievements of
Cavalry.[60] He was a patron of Captain Douglas Haig, who had attracted
his attention by reporting on French cavalry manoeuvres in the early
1890s, although they did not actually meet face-to-face until an 1895
staff ride where Haig was serving as an aide to Colonel John French.
Haig wrote that Wood was “a capital fellow to have upon one’s side as he
always gets his own way”. He arranged Haig's posting to the 1898 Sudan
War – with orders to write privately to him reporting on Kitchener, the
general officer commanding, and on his expedition's progress.[61] In
1898 Wood also acknowledged the abilities of Sir Charles Dilke, who had
returned to Parliament after his divorce scandal of the 1880s and who
hoped (in vain, as it turned out) one day to be Secretary of State for
War: "You cannot think", remarked Wood, "how grateful I am to anyone who
takes an intelligent interest in the Army."[62]

Evelyn Wood, who had experience of commanding both infantry and cavalry,
supported the concept of mounted infantry and proposed that each
infantry battalion should have one mounted company. The concept of
mounted infantry fell back into disfavour in the Edwardian period as
French and Haig, pure cavalrymen, rose to the top of the Army.[63]
Wolseley informed him that his role in the 1881 Peace made it impossible
for him to be given a field command in the Second Boer War, despite his
offer to serve under Buller, his junior. Nonetheless he was so
disappointed when Roberts was appointed commander-in-chief rather than
himself. His three sons also served in the war. During the campaign,
Evelyn Wood became ill from War Office work.[64] He was appointed to
command the II Army Corps and Southern Command 1 October 1901,[65]
holding the positions until 1904. On 8 April 1903, he was promoted field
marshal and one of the most senior officers at Horse Guards during a
period of fundamental restructuring and reorganization.[66] Wood became
colonel of the Royal Horse Guards in November 1907 and a Gold Stick.[67]
His association with the county of Essex and that regiment continued
after his long service in the colonial wars gave him more that a close
relationship with its officer corps.

On 17 June 1913, only months before the outbreak of war, King George V
reviewed the Household Cavalry in Windsor Great Park.

"With a bevy of princes and famouse soldiers, a blue body with red
wings flecked with gold and lit up by the twinkling of the sun on many
breastplates...[Sir Evelyn Wood] paid unusual attention to his
appearance," as Colonel of the Blues.[68]

Evelyn Wood epitomised the imperial hero, at the end of his life he was
the last to see the rise and fall of the great Victorian cavalry command
reach its apogee and then be made obsolete by the trenches of the Great
War. The Gold Stick was proud of his regiment: "You can picture my
pleasant thoughts when I contrast the spirit of the BLUES turning up to
the duties of Machne Gunners, and the false swagger of the men... in a
Light Dragoon Regiment" he wrote contradicting their brigade commander.
Kingsley Wood's youthful courage gave way to a shrewd appreciation of
progress and the value of modern technology.[69]
Personal life[edit]
Family[edit]

Wood’s mother was left short of money after 1866 when her husband died
and, already 66 years old, she went on to write fourteen novels,
translating Victor Hugo’s L’Homme qui Rit into English.[4] His sister
Anna was also a novelist under her married name Steele - one of her
novels featured a henpecked VC who was probably based on her brother.
She left her husband on her wedding night - apparently still a virgin -
when she discovered that he expected to have sex with her. Evelyn was
once sued for assault after striking Colonel Steele in one of his many
attempts to “reclaim” his wife.[4] During the Indian Mutiny another
sister, Maria Chambers, conveyed her children to safety through
mutineer-controlled country carrying a phial of poison for each child.[4]
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