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Even in New England, gun sales soar
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e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 04:58:17 UTC
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FROM YESTERDAY'S NEW BRITAIN, CONNECTICUT HERALD:
With its sleek lines and light weight, an AR-15-style weapon is
considered desirable as a home protection tool because it’s
maneuverable.

It looks like a machine gun. But with models as light as six pounds,
it can be leveled at an assailant without tiring the carrier. In the
hands of an experienced marksmen, it’s highly reliable at hitting a
target.

Local firearms dealers said they haven’t been able to keep that type
of firearm on the shelves for months. Scott Hoffman said that since
November he hasn’t been able to immediately fill orders for items
considered personal weapons. He’s back-ordered in certain kinds of
ammunition, too.

“Gun sales have at least doubled,” said the longtime owner of
Hoffman’s Gun Center on the Berlin Turnpike. “Business is up at least
50 percent and that’s in a bad economy. It shows you how scared people
are.”

Across town at the Newington Gun Exchange, business is equally brisk.
In the past six months, “Any type of military-style firearm has been
selling well,” Lenk said. “We’ve been lucky to have any to put on the
wall. It’s finally beginning to taper off in the past few weeks.”

In a sluggish economy when a record number of businesses are failing
or cutting back, both gun shops said their sales have been booming
since the November election of the first Democratic president in eight
years.

The rush of first-time gun owners has tripled in some places, leaving
local and state police struggling to process the overflow of pistol-
permit applications.

“I’ve seen it as high as 15 a week,” said Plainville Lt. Brian
Mullins, who is responsible for conducting background checks on all
pistol-permit applicants in his town. “That’s a lot for a town that
usually sees four to five a week. We’ve had five or six people come in
one day.”

Gun salesmen like Lenk and Hoffman are attributing the boost in sales
to a collision of political and economic forces. Lenk said business
started picking up when it became apparent that Barack Obama, who is
perceived as promoting tighter gun restrictions, might win the
election.

At the same time, as the economy soured, fears of increased crime
created a boom in a business that has traditionally been steady but
not necessarily given to dramatic spikes.

“Traditionally when the economy is bad, crime goes up,” Hoffman said.
“Add to that, that everyone who is in charge of our government doesn’t
want us to have guns, and guns sales have at least doubled.”

Lenk also added that he thought dramatic crimes like the Petit home
invasion that left a Cheshire mother and her two daughters dead after
two felons broke into their home in July 2007 are spearheading the
sales.

“That case resulted in the destruction of an entire family,” Lenk
said. “In those few seconds you have to do something to save yourself
because in the final analysis all the police are going to do is clean
up.”

State Police, who issue state permits after individuals pass their
local background checks, said they are feeling the impact.

“I think people have different reasons for wanting to buy guns right
now,” said State Trooper William Tate, who has seen lines out the door
for candidates waiting to have their permits processed. “There was
speculation that the federal government will change legislation, but
Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
There may have been a false lack of security and it’s probably
unlikely the laws will change as drastically as people think.”

State police have processed nearly double the requests for new pistol
permits in the past six months than they did in the same period a year
ago. In April they processed 1,945 new applications — a jump of over
1,000 when compared to the year before. May’s figures dropped to 1,246
— an increase of 400 over the year before.

The way the state’s pistol permitting laws work, applicants must first
apply in their town of residence with the local police department
after successfully completing a safety course. The application process
includes fingerprinting for a background check. The local police chief
is ultimately responsible for determining if a candidate should
receive a permit.

Those with felony convictions, certain other convictions, or a history
of mental instability are automatically prohibited from owning or
carrying a gun. All successful local permittees then have 60 days to
seek a state permit through the State Police Special Licensing and
Firearms Unit.

The local permitting process can take up to eight weeks by state law.
Police departments must have staff available to take fingerprints and
do background checks. Mullins admitted that in the crush he fell
behind the eight-week guideline, but has since caught up. His
Plainville department has also bumped up to three days a week the when
people can show up to be fingerprinted.

“It’s added significantly to my clerical duties,” said Mullins, who
works in the detective division investigating serious crimes and
functions as the department’s public information officer.

He estimates that he’s seeing triple the number of applications pass
by his desk since last year.

“It’s a phenomenon that I’ve certainly noticed,” he said. “Obviously
people are having safety concerns in some way.”

Several new and veteran gun owners were contacted but declined to
comment citing fears that they’ll be judged by friends and co-workers.
Most gun dealers also declined to allow The Herald to interview
customers.

Farmington and Berlin police said their permit applications have
doubled in the past six months over the same period the year before.

New Britain police, who limit applications to five or six a week due
to the work involved, are scheduling fingerprint sessions into
September.

“We feel as though we have to stick with the five or six people a week
guideline,” said New Britain Detective Harold Gannon, who does
fingerprints one day a week and conducts background checks. “We’ve
always had five or six people a week come in but what we’re seeing now
is that we have to schedule them out farther.”

At the same time, New Britain Police Chief William Gagliardi told city
police commissioners in his monthly report that the crime rate in the
city has continued to go down over the past few months.

Tate said for the first time in recent history, he watched as people
lined up outside the lobby of the State Police Middletown office to
get permits in February. “Considering the times and that everyone
seems to be having financial problems, gun shops seem to be pretty
busy,” Tate observed. “It used to be when you walked in on a Saturday
there would be a few customers standing at the counter. Now you can
see at least five or six, even during off times when you don’t expect
people to be looking for guns.”

Lenk said the best sellers have been self-defense firearms, including
military rifles like the AR-15 and handguns.

“All the gun manufacturers are going crazy. They’re backlogged on
anything resembling a self-defense type firearm,” Lenk said.

Has Obama tightened gun laws?

By LISA BACKUS

Staff writer

Area gun sellers are attributing a sharp increase in sales to the
presidential election of Barack Obama and fears that he’ll tighten gun
laws.

But a check of his recent record on gun control issues shows he may be
more moderate on the issue than most gun owners think.

While the spike in sales started the week of the November election,
Obama was widely quoted during a California speech in April 2008 as
saying “bitter Americans” in small towns “cling to their guns and
religion.”

But about two months later when the United States Supreme Court struck
down a total ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., his response was
more careful.

“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the rights
of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for
crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence
that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety
measures,” he said then.

He noted that conservative Justice Anton Scalia acknowledged that the
right to bear arms is “not absolute and subject to reasonable
regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”

Last month The New York Times editorially criticized the Obama White
House for failing to advance a “badly overdue push for sensible gun
control,” noting it “has not been a profile in courage.”

Bell City Gun Club President Walt Sinnott also pointed to Obama’s
recent signing of a bill that would allow assembled guns in national
parks.

“He’s obviously not as anti-gun as some of his counterparts,” Bell
said.

But he also said that most people believe Obama’s presidency is likely
to lead to tightened legislation including bans on some types of guns
now readily available — which is driving sales of all types of weapons
through the roof.

“There’s a huge fear factor going on now,” said Sinnott who has been a
gun enthusiast for 30 years. “There’s a fear of government trying to
regulate what people can now legally own. It’s literally leaving
shortages in all the items that you need to reload a gun. Primer and
powder are getting harder to buy because even if a shop gets in 1,000
items by the end of the day, it’s all gone.”
e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 05:04:40 UTC
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Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves. They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps. Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
None4U
2009-06-01 05:38:23 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves. They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps. Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 05:43:20 UTC
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Obamas poverty act  has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country.  At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years.  Its a replay of the
millenium act  for poverty in foreign countries.
Think anyone will comply? Any more than the bans on crack cocaine -
which never was legal in America - mean that any teenage slum kid in
the Black Daley's Chicago can't have some tonight? Any more than
Prohibition (of booze) kept my father's father from drinking
throughout it - even though his favorite "dago red" wine became urine
within 24 hours?
White people with guns can do "civil disobedience" as easily as
unarmed black women could. In fact, easier.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Behead the GOP Snake
2009-06-01 08:42:21 UTC
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Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
Think anyone will comply? Any more than the bans on crack cocaine -
which never was legal in America - mean that any teenage slum kid in
the Black Daley's Chicago can't have some tonight? Any more than
Prohibition (of booze) kept my father's father from drinking
throughout it - even though his favorite "dago red" wine became urine
within 24 hours?
White people with guns can do "civil disobedience" as easily as
unarmed black women could. In fact, easier.
==========

The Dems thank you for your stereotyped response. It proves Bush was an
aberration and repubs will be in the gutter forever.
h***@hotmail.com
2009-06-01 10:49:53 UTC
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Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
Think anyone will comply?  Any more than the bans on crack cocaine -
which never was legal in America - mean that any teenage slum kid in
the Black Daley's Chicago can't have some tonight?  Any more than
Prohibition (of booze) kept my father's father from drinking
throughout it - even though his favorite "dago red" wine became urine
within 24 hours?
White people with guns can do "civil disobedience" as easily as
unarmed black women could.  In fact, easier.
==========
The Dems thank you for your stereotyped response.  It proves Bush was an
aberration and repubs will be in the gutter forever.
So Clinton never prosecuted a war on drugs? Thank you for your BDS
response.
Basil Karlo
2009-06-02 05:04:43 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
Think anyone will comply? Any more than the bans on crack cocaine -
which never was legal in America - mean that any teenage slum kid in
the Black Daley's Chicago can't have some tonight? Any more than
Prohibition (of booze) kept my father's father from drinking
throughout it - even though his favorite "dago red" wine became urine
within 24 hours?
White people with guns can do "civil disobedience" as easily as
unarmed black women could. In fact, easier.
==========
The Dems thank you for your stereotyped response. It proves Bush was an
aberration and repubs will be in the gutter forever.
Chicago already has a total handgun ban, and required registration for long
guns and shotguns. There were 8 shootings in last 24 hours, one was a cop
that died a couple hours ago. None of the shooters were found, and some will
probably skate. It isn't honest law abiding people who did the shooting, it
was most likely young punks on dope. The police aren't able to get those
guns off the street now with a ban in place, the strictest ban in the USA.
What kind of ban will be different or better or more strict?

Meanwhile, the honest law abiding folks fall victim to the thugs. Mayor
Daley lives in his fantasy world. One would have to be crazy to come in to
Chicago with a gun, I listen to the scanner and I can pick up most of the
city. Whenever there's a call for man with a gun, they is a big effort to
find the person. It's usually 2 to 4 cars that respond to a call like that.
In the mean time calls for help are answered as "I'm busy with the job I'm
on, put it on my box". I'll stick to the suburbs, where it is almost normal.

http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=297588&
Klaus Schadenfreude
2009-06-01 12:49:40 UTC
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Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
None4U
2009-06-02 06:47:31 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration
commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a
series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the
Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological
Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination
Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

A quote from the act...

"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures,

What do you think regional disarmament measures are?? Gun control wherever
they damn well please.



"Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those
treaties being ratified. But it does increase the domestic and international
pressure to do so. And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty
Act.

The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable
common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to
realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."




http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5152
Klaus Schadenfreude
2009-06-02 11:39:56 UTC
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Post by None4U
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration
commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a
series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the
Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological
Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination
Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
A quote from the act...
"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures,
What do you think regional disarmament measures are?? Gun control wherever
they damn well please.
"Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those
treaties being ratified. But it does increase the domestic and international
pressure to do so. And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty
Act.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable
common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to
realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5152
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s2433is.txt.pdf

Tell me where it says IN THIS BILL that they're going to remove guns
from OUR country.

Take all the time you need.
None4U
2009-06-02 14:58:29 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration
commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a
series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the
Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological
Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of
Discrimination
Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
A quote from the act...
"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures,
What do you think regional disarmament measures are?? Gun control wherever
they damn well please.
"Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those
treaties being ratified. But it does increase the domestic and
international
pressure to do so. And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty
Act.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable
common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to
realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5152
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s2433is.txt.pdf
Tell me where it says IN THIS BILL that they're going to remove guns
from OUR country.
Take all the time you need.
Its not in the Bill. The Bill states the US will comply with the terms of
the UN Millenium Developement goals. I quoted the UNs Millenium goals.

Once again I quote the Millenium developement goals.

"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures"


And regional disarmament measures means exactly that. The region to be
defined by the UN. And implemented by our own government . Against our
people . If told to do so. By the UN.


The " Millenium Developement Goals" refers to a United Nations declaration
adopted by the U.N. Millennium Assembly and Summit in 2000 that calls for
"the eradication of poverty" by "redistribution (of) wealth and land,"
cancellation of "the debts of developing countries" and "a fair distribution
of the earth's resources."

The U.N. has assumed that it governs the earth, and wishes to penalize the
most productive country on it for, well, being the most productive. If you
never quite understood the nature and purpose of the "unification" and
"global amity" plans described by Rand in Atlas Shrugged, this plan is its
real world counterpart. In practical terms, the Millennium declaration is a
prescription for not only perpetuating the "global poverty" it purports to
eradicate, but also for impoverishing everyone, and for perpetuating that
condition, as well.

But the Obama bill does more than allow the U.N. to tax American citizens.
It is more than a matter of legality or illegality. For all practical
purposes, it surrenders U.S. political sovereignty and independence to the
U.N., an organization most of whose members are actively hostile to the U.S.
Has the U.S. ever approved a tax on its citizens imposed by the U.N.? If it
has, by what authority? Note that the wording of the Obama bill would
require "the president to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy" --
which assumes that the office of president is just another mode of tyranny
or arbitrary power, no different from the "presidency" of any random tin pot
dictatorship or regime

The Millennium declaration, also calls for a "currency transfer tax," a
"tax on the rental value of land and natural resources," a "royalty on
worldwide fossil energy production - oil, natural gas, coal," "fees for the
commercial use of the oceans, fees for airplane use of the skies, fees for
use of the electromagnetic spectrum, fees on foreign exchange transactions,
and a tax on the carbon content of fuels."

The United Nations has come under the control of outlaw nations, petty and
tarnished former superpowers and self-ordained special interest groups. Each
promotes a socialist agenda that seeks to redistribute the world's wealth
into their own coffers as they diminish the power of the United States and
enslave the citizens of nations in a dark ages of poverty and misery.
That's why terrorist states like Libya and Syria are allowed to serve on the
UN's Human Rights Commission as Israel is condemned in resolution after
resolution. It's the reason why a prosperous, industrious nation like Taiwan
is refused membership in the UN while a murderous thug like Zimbabwe's
Robert Mugabe is given a prominent voice at UN conferences.

The United Nations is not "dysfunctional," as some "reformists" have
claimed. It is a criminal enterprise in which no moral nation should ever
participate, let alone perpetuate.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2009-06-03 11:11:03 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration
commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a
series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the
Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological
Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of
Discrimination
Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
A quote from the act...
"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures,
What do you think regional disarmament measures are?? Gun control wherever
they damn well please.
"Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those
treaties being ratified. But it does increase the domestic and international
pressure to do so. And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty
Act.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable
common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to
realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5152
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s2433is.txt.pdf
Tell me where it says IN THIS BILL that they're going to remove guns
from OUR country.
Take all the time you need.
Its not in the Bill.
Then you're a paranoid whacko. STFU.
None4U
2009-06-10 21:23:24 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by None4U
Obamas poverty act has a UN requirement to remove all guns from our
country. At a US cost of 900 million over 10 years. Its a replay of the
millenium act for poverty in foreign countries.
[chuckle] Sure it does.
In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that Millennium Declaration
commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a
series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the
Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological
Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of
Discrimination
Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
A quote from the act...
"To take concerted action to end illicit traffic in small arms and light
weapons, especially by making arms transfers more transparent and supporting
regional disarmament measures,
What do you think regional disarmament measures are?? Gun control wherever
they damn well please.
"Passage of the Global Poverty Act would not, of course, result in those
treaties being ratified. But it does increase the domestic and international
pressure to do so. And that is another inherent danger of the Global Poverty
Act.
The Millennium Declaration also affirms the U.N. as "the indispensable
common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to
realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and
development."
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=5152
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=110_cong_bills&docid=f:s2433is.txt.pdf
Tell me where it says IN THIS BILL that they're going to remove guns
from OUR country.
Take all the time you need.
Its not in the Bill.
Then you're a paranoid whacko. STFU.
Youre a daft idiot if you cant read and understand what the bill means.

Take all the time you need.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2009-06-11 12:13:20 UTC
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Post by None4U
Youre a daft idiot if you cant read and understand what the bill means.
Sorry if I don't share your intense paranoia.
Kevin Cunningham
2009-06-01 11:38:55 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves.  They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps.  Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?

Geez, the concealed faggotry is getting a bit much.

Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.

The repug party will come back. After 20 years at least.
slate_leeper
2009-06-01 11:56:27 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
Post by Kevin Cunningham
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?
Actually, Freud associates retarded sexual/emotional development not
with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. Perhaps
that is your problem?

Page 507 of THE MAJOR WRITINGS OF SIGMUND FREUD, Great Books ed., 1952



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Klaus Schadenfreude
2009-06-01 12:50:50 UTC
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Post by Kevin Cunningham
Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.
That's why you girls are afraid to enact ANY gun control laws, right?
[chuckle]
Gray Ghost
2009-06-01 15:56:36 UTC
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Post by Kevin Cunningham
Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves.  They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps.  Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?
Geez, the concealed faggotry is getting a bit much.
Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.
The repug party will come back. After 20 years at least.
It's gonna be so easy.
--
Always remember:

Bull Connor was a Democrat!
Gunner Asch
2009-06-15 07:18:46 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
Post by Kevin Cunningham
Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves.  They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps.  Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?
Geez, the concealed faggotry is getting a bit much.
Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.
The repug party will come back. After 20 years at least.
Kevin....why do you think the gun buyers are buying every shootable
firearm in sight?

Kevin...havent you figured it out yet? They are getting ready to kill
you and yours.

Hate to break it to you..but its evident you havent figured it out yet.

100,000,000 (100 million) armed people with plenty of ammo and you as
their target.

And yet you laugh about it?

Blink blink......

Gunner

"Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in
liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

Bruce C. Thornton, a professor of Classics at American University of Cal State Fresno
Deucalion
2009-06-15 14:51:53 UTC
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:18:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
Post by slate_leeper
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:38:55 -0700 (PDT), Kevin Cunningham
Post by Kevin Cunningham
Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves.  They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps.  Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?
Geez, the concealed faggotry is getting a bit much.
Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.
The repug party will come back. After 20 years at least.
Kevin....why do you think the gun buyers are buying every shootable
firearm in sight?
Kevin...havent you figured it out yet? They are getting ready to kill
you and yours.
You know, an equally valid scenario is that they are buying them to
protect themselves from useless eaters who think that society owes
them a life. You know. Those like yourself.
Post by slate_leeper
Hate to break it to you..but its evident you havent figured it out yet.
It is to me.
Post by slate_leeper
100,000,000 (100 million) armed people with plenty of ammo and you as
their target.
That should be telling you that you really don't want to try to hang
them from street posts.
Post by slate_leeper
And yet you laugh about it?
If you got your ass capped, yes I sure would.
Post by slate_leeper
Blink blink......
Bang
Gray Ghost
2009-06-15 15:21:05 UTC
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Post by Kevin Cunningham
Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves.  They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps.  Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com- your source for hard-to-find stuff!
So when you are stroking your guns barrel, moving your hands up and
down the barrel, yeah, quicker and quicker, do you really get of on it
or are you usually that queer?
Geez, the concealed faggotry is getting a bit much.
Face it, closet queer, you guys lost. You guys lost big time. You
guys lost and keep on loosing. You have fewer and fewer senate and
house seats, fewer state seats. Your party is dying on the vine.
Your party is headed by a drug addled coward who is a homo.
The repug party will come back. After 20 years at least.
Are you the sort of myopic nitwit that doesn't grasp that politics is
cyclical?

Next time we're on top we'll consider you as expendable.

Or do you want to have one party rule so as to stifle debate?
--
Always remember:

Bull Connor was a Democrat!
B1ackwater
2009-06-01 12:24:57 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
Even in looney-left core urban Blue Nation, people are voting with
their Visa cards that they don't depend on the regime protecting them
- and that they need guns to protect themselves. They also are saying
they now are gun owners - for keeps. Nobody spends the going $900 on
an AR-15 because they have any intent of ever surrendering it, either.
Facts are being created that the regime now just can't reverse.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Yep. If the lefties try to enact anti-gun regs in
the middle of a panic-buying situation, not only
will it massively increase the panic but could
jumpstart some kind of insurrection - with plenty
of moderates and liberals in the mob.

People, even Ma & Pa Lefty, are *afraid* that the
house of cards is falling down around them - and
they may be right. Clearly they don't even have
much confidence in messiah Obama. An effective
means of personal protection is a sensible move.

There's a point where you can't rely on the State
to take care of the little stuff - all we'd get
from them are soldiers and martial law ... and
they're not gonna be very worried about robbery
and rape and murder - just the bigger-scale stuff
like food riots.

So, the NRA effectively just became a LOT bigger.
It will stay that way at least until things seem
better (if they ever do). Anyway, prepare for
the worst and hope/work for the best - it's the
sensible thing to do.
e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 14:29:22 UTC
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   Yep. If the lefties try to enact anti-gun regs in
   the middle of a panic-buying situation, not only
   will it massively increase the panic but could
   jumpstart some kind of insurrection - with plenty
   of moderates and liberals in the mob.
Great analysis. Nobody spends $900 now on an AR-15 (or $700 on an
AK-47) in any intent of EVER giving it up without armed struggle - no
more than they spend $24,000 on a car on the intent of EVER giving it
up to commute Chinese-style by bicycle just because Algore tells them
to. Least of all during the midst of an economic depression when they
can't get home-equity lines of credit to fund it.
   People, even Ma & Pa Lefty, are *afraid* that the
   house of cards is falling down around them - and
   they may be right. Clearly they don't even have
   much confidence in messiah Obama.
Very astute. These people in that sudden upsurge in AR-15 buyers in
Connecticut sure aren't the stereotyped redneck gun buyer - nor the
stereotyped gun-club member - as those people ALREADY long ago had
semiauto tactical rifles.
   There's a point where you can't rely on the State
   to take care of the little stuff - all we'd get
   from them are soldiers and martial law ... and
   they're not gonna be very worried about robbery
   and rape and murder - just the bigger-scale stuff
   like food riots.
It's beyond even that. All the regime will even try protecting is a
dual "Green Zone" of D.C. and NYC metro areas - where the elites
themselves are. It won't give a shit if the slum people - or the
suburbanites - in even Boston starve or kill each other in food riots.
   So, the NRA effectively just became a LOT bigger.
Not really. Very few of the "new gun buyers" will EVER be shooting
hobbyists or even politically-active gun-rights activists like the
longtime gun-club member.
   It will stay that way at least until things seem
   better (if they ever do). Anyway, prepare for
   the worst and hope/work for the best - it's the
   sensible thing to do.
That's right.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
B1ackwater
2009-06-01 21:31:49 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
   Yep. If the lefties try to enact anti-gun regs in
   the middle of a panic-buying situation, not only
   will it massively increase the panic but could
   jumpstart some kind of insurrection - with plenty
   of moderates and liberals in the mob.
Great analysis. Nobody spends $900 now on an AR-15 (or $700 on an
AK-47) in any intent of EVER giving it up without armed struggle
Well, the liberal sheep might ... if Obama asked 'em pretty
please .... :-)

In short, not EVERYBODY is gonna cling to their gun like
the only scrap of wood in a stormy sea. If the overall
situation improves, a buy-back program would score a
lot of weapons.

However the vast increase in ownership now means that even
after the sheep answer the call, there's still gonna be a
LOT more owners than there were a year or two ago.

(And where the hell are you getting $900 AR-15s ? Most
of those have pushed into the over-$1000 range ... with
a $1500 pricetag not being all THAT unusual. Frankly,
Joe Average would be just as well served with something
cheaper - a 9mm handgun, a old bolt-action sporting/mil
rifle - even a lowly .22 semi will run off the bogeyman
and put a bunny in your cooking pot too)
Post by e***@netpath.net
- no
more than they spend $24,000 on a car on the intent of EVER giving it
up to commute Chinese-style by bicycle just because Algore tells them
to. Least of all during the midst of an economic depression when they
can't get home-equity lines of credit to fund it.
   People, even Ma & Pa Lefty, are *afraid* that the
   house of cards is falling down around them - and
   they may be right. Clearly they don't even have
   much confidence in messiah Obama.
Very astute. These people in that sudden upsurge in AR-15 buyers in
Connecticut sure aren't the stereotyped redneck gun buyer - nor the
stereotyped gun-club member - as those people ALREADY long ago had
semiauto tactical rifles.
Exactly. A 10th rifle isn't gonna improve your survival/
self-reliance profile one bit. Most of todays buyers
are NEW buyers - from beyond the usual profile. That
they waited so long means something has really got
them scared. Guns probably won't REALLY help with the
problems they're likely to encounter, but they make
Joe feel better anyway. His butt is now covered in
case things go SERIOUSLY wrong ... and that makes it
easier to deal with the other 99% of his worries.
Post by e***@netpath.net
   There's a point where you can't rely on the State
   to take care of the little stuff - all we'd get
   from them are soldiers and martial law ... and
   they're not gonna be very worried about robbery
   and rape and murder - just the bigger-scale stuff
   like food riots.
It's beyond even that. All the regime will even try protecting is a
dual "Green Zone" of D.C. and NYC metro areas - where the elites
themselves are.
Well, they're the IMPORTANT people, the "REAL" people
after all ... :-)
Post by e***@netpath.net
It won't give a shit if the slum people - or the
suburbanites - in even Boston starve or kill each other in food riots.
Oh, they'd intervene in Boston ... but, as I said, they won't
be a replacement for regular cops. They'll be soldiers, with
a soldiers perspective on things, and a mandate to keep ORDER.
A much heavier hand than anyone (well, anyone who's not a
poor 'black' slumdweller) is used to. They aren't going to
go looking for the guys who gang-raped your sister or stole
your food ration.
Post by e***@netpath.net
   So, the NRA effectively just became a LOT bigger.
Not really. Very few of the "new gun buyers" will EVER be shooting
hobbyists or even politically-active gun-rights activists like the
longtime gun-club member.
Which is why I said "effectively". They've now bought the
hardware ... and the idea that the govt might not be there
to save them on time ... so they're 'vested' so to speak.
While most won't join the NRA, their opinions and weight
WILL count next time the anticonstitutionalists come 'round.
It will no longer be possible to pigeonhole 'gun owners'
as a handful of lunatic moonshine-sippin criminal NAZIs.
That would be insulting Ma and Pa Everyman - and a good
way to lose elections.
Post by e***@netpath.net
   It will stay that way at least until things seem
   better (if they ever do). Anyway, prepare for
   the worst and hope/work for the best - it's the
   sensible thing to do.
That's right.
Just don't forget the "hope/work for the best" part. That's
even more important than that AR-15. We really, REALLY,
don't want the USA to fall to pieces. That would be just
awful in dozens of ways and dimensions. 1st-world countries
have a LOT further to fall than, say, Zimbabwe. We RELY
on all that infrastructure and the order underlying it
far more than some Afghani goatherd who has, maybe,
once HEARD about that thing called "government".

(btw, who'd WANT an AR-15 ? an AK derivative is gonna be
more reliable and the best compromise is a plain-Jane
Mini-14)
e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 23:59:22 UTC
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   (btw, who'd WANT an AR-15 ? an AK derivative is gonna be
   more reliable and the best compromise is a plain-Jane
   Mini-14)
The AK is by far the best. Inexpensive *reliable* high-caps - and a
rifle so idiot-proof that child "soldiers" in Africa can use it and
keep it going.
I've shot a Colt AR. Didn't like it; the no-piston gas mechanism was
a mess and the thing needed to be babied.
As for the Mini-14, forget it. My experience - far from alone - is
unreliability, caused mainly by it being *very* fussy about what high-
caps it will use.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
B1ackwater
2009-06-02 11:34:20 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
   (btw, who'd WANT an AR-15 ? an AK derivative is gonna be
   more reliable and the best compromise is a plain-Jane
   Mini-14)
The AK is by far the best. Inexpensive *reliable* high-caps - and a
rifle so idiot-proof that child "soldiers" in Africa can use it and
keep it going.
I've shot a Colt AR. Didn't like it; the no-piston gas mechanism was
a mess and the thing needed to be babied.
As for the Mini-14, forget it. My experience - far from alone - is
unreliability, caused mainly by it being *very* fussy about what high-
caps it will use.
http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Well gee ... how many hi-caps do you NEED ? Find three or
four that work well with your '14 and you're set to drive
off even the largest riot mob. You can get by with even
less if you AIM before firing :-)

Frankly I never had any problems with the '14, and 20-rounders
seem adequate while 30-rounders get kinda awkward. To each their
own I suppose. The Mini-30 is OK too ... and you can get cheap
eastern-bloc ammo instead of paying premium for 5.56 ball.

But, we both agree that the AK design is simply the best
(for everything but long-range shooting). Komrade Klashnikov
was truely inspired ...
B1ackwater
2009-06-01 12:12:37 UTC
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A lot of people think the end is neigh ... that
the country, the infrastructure, is about to fall
down go boom. No 'services', no cops, iffy food
and med situations ... kinda like after hurricane
Katrina or Andrew - but *everywhere* with no FEMA
to (eventually) save the day.

And they MAY be right. Opti-prop aside, the overall
economic situation is nowhere NEAR bottom. The
housing market fell first, but GM - the heart of
American industry - is going bankrupt today and
the commercial real-estate biz shows signs of
following the residential trend. Feels as if we
are living in a house of cards ...

Therefore, sensibly, people are preparing for the
worst while hoping for the best. If the worst does
not come ... well... good.

Still, this situation is kind of a 'secret poll'
about confidence in the future ... and it looks
as if there isn't all that much.
The Rifleman
2009-06-01 15:04:52 UTC
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yup encourage every yank to buy a gun, then it will be easier for them to
shoot a class full of kids or kill their workmates, the yanks need another
national holiday where they can prove to other yanks just how tough and
macho they are billing shooting dead some innocent sap.

Yanks are so afraid of everytrhing including themselves they dare not
venture out of their homes unless they are armed, and you should see them
shit themselves if they find out a neighbour has a bigger gun.

Yanks with guns = darwinism in action
e***@netpath.net
2009-06-01 15:24:04 UTC
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Post by The Rifleman
yup encourage every yank to buy a gun, then it will be easier for them to
shoot a class full of kids or kill their workmates, the yanks need another
national holiday where they can prove to other yanks just how tough and
macho they are billing shooting dead some innocent sap.
You are so naive. If such incidents were anything approaching the
norm among gun owners, not only wouldn't they be "news" any more than
fenderbenders that are common among car owners are - but there
wouldn't be anyone left alive in America by now.
Post by The Rifleman
Yanks with guns = darwinism in action
Only in the black slum - and federal statistics saying that black
Americans commit murder at EIGHT times the rate of European-Americans
and die of murder at FIVE times the rate of European-Americans prove
it.

http://www.Internet-Gun-Show.com - your source for hard-to-find stuff!
Basil Karlo
2009-06-02 02:59:39 UTC
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New England is so much better than that Old England shithole.
None4U
2009-06-02 06:53:17 UTC
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Post by Basil Karlo
New England is so much better than that Old England shithole.
You should of wrote:

New England shithole is so much better then that Old England shithole.
Basil Karlo
2009-06-02 12:15:41 UTC
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Post by None4U
Post by Basil Karlo
New England is so much better than that Old England shithole.
New England shithole is so much better then that Old England shithole.
Yes I see, it does have the word England in it, so shithole would be
accurate and redundant. It could be shortened to shithole and new shithole.
Of course then it would be confused with Argentina.
None4U
2009-06-02 15:03:46 UTC
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Post by Basil Karlo
Post by None4U
Post by Basil Karlo
New England is so much better than that Old England shithole.
New England shithole is so much better then that Old England shithole.
Yes I see, it does have the word England in it, so shithole would be
accurate and redundant. It could be shortened to shithole and new
shithole. Of course then it would be confused with Argentina.
Oh , Well, I stand corrected. Your English is a bit more advanced then
mine.
Basil Karlo
2009-06-06 06:05:43 UTC
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Post by None4U
Post by Basil Karlo
Post by None4U
Post by Basil Karlo
New England is so much better than that Old England shithole.
New England shithole is so much better then that Old England shithole.
Yes I see, it does have the word England in it, so shithole would be
accurate and redundant. It could be shortened to shithole and new
shithole. Of course then it would be confused with Argentina.
Oh , Well, I stand corrected. Your English is a bit more advanced then
mine.
It's the exported English language that is advanced, not like that crap
domestic stuff they speak on the wet rock.
h***@hotmail.com
2009-06-01 23:04:27 UTC
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Post by e***@netpath.net
With its sleek lines and light weight, an AR-15-style weapon is
considered desirable as a home protection tool because it’s
maneuverable.
It looks like a machine gun. But with models as light as six pounds,
it can be leveled at an assailant without tiring the carrier. In the
hands of an experienced marksmen, it’s highly reliable at hitting a
target.
Local firearms dealers said they haven’t been able to keep that type
of firearm on the shelves for months. Scott Hoffman said that since
November he hasn’t been able to immediately fill orders for items
considered personal weapons. He’s back-ordered in certain kinds of
ammunition, too.
“Gun sales have at least doubled,” said the longtime owner of
Hoffman’s Gun Center on the Berlin Turnpike. “Business is up at least
50 percent and that’s in a bad economy. It shows you how scared people
are.”
Across town at the Newington Gun Exchange, business is equally brisk.
In the past six months, “Any type of military-style firearm has been
selling well,” Lenk said. “We’ve been lucky to have any to put on the
wall. It’s finally beginning to taper off in the past few weeks.”
In a sluggish economy when a record number of businesses are failing
or cutting back, both gun shops said their sales have been booming
since the November election of the first Democratic president in eight
years.
The rush of first-time gun owners has tripled in some places, leaving
local and state police struggling to process the overflow of pistol-
permit applications.
“I’ve seen it as high as 15 a week,” said Plainville Lt. Brian
Mullins, who is responsible for conducting background checks on all
pistol-permit applicants in his town. “That’s a lot for a town that
usually sees four to five a week. We’ve had five or six people come in
one day.”
Gun salesmen like Lenk and Hoffman are attributing the boost in sales
to a collision of political and economic forces. Lenk said business
started picking up when it became apparent that Barack Obama, who is
perceived as promoting tighter gun restrictions, might win the
election.
At the same time, as the economy soured, fears of increased crime
created a boom in a business that has traditionally been steady but
not necessarily given to dramatic spikes.
“Traditionally when the economy is bad, crime goes up,” Hoffman said.
“Add to that, that everyone who is in charge of our government doesn’t
want us to have guns, and guns sales have at least doubled.”
Lenk also added that he thought dramatic crimes like the Petit home
invasion that left a Cheshire mother and her two daughters dead after
two felons broke into their home in July 2007 are spearheading the
sales.
“That case resulted in the destruction of an entire family,” Lenk
said. “In those few seconds you have to do something to save yourself
because in the final analysis all the police are going to do is clean
up.”
State Police, who issue state permits after individuals pass their
local background checks, said they are feeling the impact.
“I think people have different reasons for wanting to buy guns right
now,” said State Trooper William Tate, who has seen lines out the door
for candidates waiting to have their permits processed. “There was
speculation that the federal government will change legislation, but
Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
There may have been a false lack of security and it’s probably
unlikely the laws will change as drastically as people think.”
State police have processed nearly double the requests for new pistol
permits in the past six months than they did in the same period a year
ago. In April they processed 1,945 new applications — a jump of over
1,000 when compared to the year before. May’s figures dropped to 1,246
— an increase of 400 over the year before.
The way the state’s pistol permitting laws work, applicants must first
apply in their town of residence with the local police department
after successfully completing a safety course. The application process
includes fingerprinting for a background check. The local police chief
is ultimately responsible for determining if a candidate should
receive a permit.
Those with felony convictions, certain other convictions, or a history
of mental instability are automatically prohibited from owning or
carrying a gun. All successful local permittees then have 60 days to
seek a state permit through the State Police Special Licensing and
Firearms Unit.
The local permitting process can take up to eight weeks by state law.
Police departments must have staff available to take fingerprints and
do background checks. Mullins admitted that in the crush he fell
behind the eight-week guideline, but has since caught up. His
Plainville department has also bumped up to three days a week the when
people can show up to be fingerprinted.
“It’s added significantly to my clerical duties,” said Mullins, who
works in the detective division investigating serious crimes and
functions as the department’s public information officer.
He estimates that he’s seeing triple the number of applications pass
by his desk since last year.
“It’s a phenomenon that I’ve certainly noticed,” he said. “Obviously
people are having safety concerns in some way.”
Several new and veteran gun owners were contacted but declined to
comment citing fears that they’ll be judged by friends and co-workers.
Most gun dealers also declined to allow The Herald to interview
customers.
Farmington and Berlin police said their permit applications have
doubled in the past six months over the same period the year before.
New Britain police, who limit applications to five or six a week due
to the work involved, are scheduling fingerprint sessions into
September.
“We feel as though we have to stick with the five or six people a week
guideline,” said New Britain Detective Harold Gannon, who does
fingerprints one day a week and conducts background checks. “We’ve
always had five or six people a week come in but what we’re seeing now
is that we have to schedule them out farther.”
At the same time, New Britain Police Chief William Gagliardi told city
police commissioners in his monthly report that the crime rate in the
city has continued to go down over the past few months.
Tate said for the first time in recent history, he watched as people
lined up outside the lobby of the State Police Middletown office to
get permits in February. “Considering the times and that everyone
seems to be having financial problems, gun shops seem to be pretty
busy,” Tate observed. “It used to be when you walked in on a Saturday
there would be a few customers standing at the counter. Now you can
see at least five or six, even during off times when you don’t expect
people to be looking for guns.”
Lenk said the best sellers have been self-defense firearms, including
military rifles like the AR-15 and handguns.
“All the gun manufacturers are going crazy. They’re backlogged on
anything resembling a self-defense type firearm,” Lenk said.
Has Obama tightened gun laws?
By LISA BACKUS
Staff writer
Area gun sellers are attributing a sharp increase in sales to the
presidential election of Barack Obama and fears that he’ll tighten gun
laws.
But a check of his recent record on gun control issues shows he may be
more moderate on the issue than most gun owners think.
While the spike in sales started the week of the November election,
Obama was widely quoted during a California speech in April 2008 as
saying “bitter Americans” in small towns “cling to their guns and
religion.”
But about two months later when the United States Supreme Court struck
down a total ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., his response was
more careful.
“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the rights
of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for
crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence
that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety
measures,” he said then.
He noted that conservative Justice Anton Scalia acknowledged that the
right to bear arms is “not absolute and subject to reasonable
regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”
Last month The New York Times editorially criticized the Obama White
House for failing to advance a “badly overdue push for sensible gun
control,” noting it “has not been a profile in courage.”
Bell City Gun Club President Walt Sinnott also pointed to Obama’s
recent signing of a bill that would allow assembled guns in national
parks.
“He’s obviously not as anti-gun as some of his counterparts,” Bell
said.
But he also said that most people believe Obama’s presidency is likely
to lead to tightened legislation including bans on some types of guns
now readily available — which is driving sales of all types of weapons
through the roof.
“There’s a huge fear factor going on now,” said Sinnott who has been a
gun enthusiast for 30 years. “There’s a fear of government trying to
regulate what people can now legally own. It’s literally leaving
shortages in all the items that you need to reload a gun. Primer and
powder are getting harder to buy because even if a shop gets in 1,000
items by the end of the day, it’s all gone.”
Do you really thing they are preparing to be a part of Obama's
AmeriCorps???

Highly doubtful.
None4U
2009-06-02 06:57:10 UTC
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With its sleek lines and light weight, an AR-15-style weapon is
considered desirable as a home protection tool because it’s
maneuverable.
It looks like a machine gun. But with models as light as six pounds,
it can be leveled at an assailant without tiring the carrier. In the
hands of an experienced marksmen, it’s highly reliable at hitting a
target.
Local firearms dealers said they haven’t been able to keep that type
of firearm on the shelves for months. Scott Hoffman said that since
November he hasn’t been able to immediately fill orders for items
considered personal weapons. He’s back-ordered in certain kinds of
ammunition, too.
“Gun sales have at least doubled,” said the longtime owner of
Hoffman’s Gun Center on the Berlin Turnpike. “Business is up at least
50 percent and that’s in a bad economy. It shows you how scared people
are.”
Across town at the Newington Gun Exchange, business is equally brisk.
In the past six months, “Any type of military-style firearm has been
selling well,” Lenk said. “We’ve been lucky to have any to put on the
wall. It’s finally beginning to taper off in the past few weeks.”
In a sluggish economy when a record number of businesses are failing
or cutting back, both gun shops said their sales have been booming
since the November election of the first Democratic president in eight
years.
The rush of first-time gun owners has tripled in some places, leaving
local and state police struggling to process the overflow of pistol-
permit applications.
“I’ve seen it as high as 15 a week,” said Plainville Lt. Brian
Mullins, who is responsible for conducting background checks on all
pistol-permit applicants in his town. “That’s a lot for a town that
usually sees four to five a week. We’ve had five or six people come in
one day.”
Gun salesmen like Lenk and Hoffman are attributing the boost in sales
to a collision of political and economic forces. Lenk said business
started picking up when it became apparent that Barack Obama, who is
perceived as promoting tighter gun restrictions, might win the
election.
At the same time, as the economy soured, fears of increased crime
created a boom in a business that has traditionally been steady but
not necessarily given to dramatic spikes.
“Traditionally when the economy is bad, crime goes up,” Hoffman said.
“Add to that, that everyone who is in charge of our government doesn’t
want us to have guns, and guns sales have at least doubled.”
Lenk also added that he thought dramatic crimes like the Petit home
invasion that left a Cheshire mother and her two daughters dead after
two felons broke into their home in July 2007 are spearheading the
sales.
“That case resulted in the destruction of an entire family,” Lenk
said. “In those few seconds you have to do something to save yourself
because in the final analysis all the police are going to do is clean
up.”
State Police, who issue state permits after individuals pass their
local background checks, said they are feeling the impact.
“I think people have different reasons for wanting to buy guns right
now,” said State Trooper William Tate, who has seen lines out the door
for candidates waiting to have their permits processed. “There was
speculation that the federal government will change legislation, but
Connecticut already has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.
There may have been a false lack of security and it’s probably
unlikely the laws will change as drastically as people think.”
State police have processed nearly double the requests for new pistol
permits in the past six months than they did in the same period a year
ago. In April they processed 1,945 new applications — a jump of over
1,000 when compared to the year before. May’s figures dropped to 1,246
— an increase of 400 over the year before.
The way the state’s pistol permitting laws work, applicants must first
apply in their town of residence with the local police department
after successfully completing a safety course. The application process
includes fingerprinting for a background check. The local police chief
is ultimately responsible for determining if a candidate should
receive a permit.
Those with felony convictions, certain other convictions, or a history
of mental instability are automatically prohibited from owning or
carrying a gun. All successful local permittees then have 60 days to
seek a state permit through the State Police Special Licensing and
Firearms Unit.
The local permitting process can take up to eight weeks by state law.
Police departments must have staff available to take fingerprints and
do background checks. Mullins admitted that in the crush he fell
behind the eight-week guideline, but has since caught up. His
Plainville department has also bumped up to three days a week the when
people can show up to be fingerprinted.
“It’s added significantly to my clerical duties,” said Mullins, who
works in the detective division investigating serious crimes and
functions as the department’s public information officer.
He estimates that he’s seeing triple the number of applications pass
by his desk since last year.
“It’s a phenomenon that I’ve certainly noticed,” he said. “Obviously
people are having safety concerns in some way.”
Several new and veteran gun owners were contacted but declined to
comment citing fears that they’ll be judged by friends and co-workers.
Most gun dealers also declined to allow The Herald to interview
customers.
Farmington and Berlin police said their permit applications have
doubled in the past six months over the same period the year before.
New Britain police, who limit applications to five or six a week due
to the work involved, are scheduling fingerprint sessions into
September.
“We feel as though we have to stick with the five or six people a week
guideline,” said New Britain Detective Harold Gannon, who does
fingerprints one day a week and conducts background checks. “We’ve
always had five or six people a week come in but what we’re seeing now
is that we have to schedule them out farther.”
At the same time, New Britain Police Chief William Gagliardi told city
police commissioners in his monthly report that the crime rate in the
city has continued to go down over the past few months.
Tate said for the first time in recent history, he watched as people
lined up outside the lobby of the State Police Middletown office to
get permits in February. “Considering the times and that everyone
seems to be having financial problems, gun shops seem to be pretty
busy,” Tate observed. “It used to be when you walked in on a Saturday
there would be a few customers standing at the counter. Now you can
see at least five or six, even during off times when you don’t expect
people to be looking for guns.”
Lenk said the best sellers have been self-defense firearms, including
military rifles like the AR-15 and handguns.
“All the gun manufacturers are going crazy. They’re backlogged on
anything resembling a self-defense type firearm,” Lenk said.
Has Obama tightened gun laws?
By LISA BACKUS
Staff writer
Area gun sellers are attributing a sharp increase in sales to the
presidential election of Barack Obama and fears that he’ll tighten gun
laws.
But a check of his recent record on gun control issues shows he may be
more moderate on the issue than most gun owners think.
While the spike in sales started the week of the November election,
Obama was widely quoted during a California speech in April 2008 as
saying “bitter Americans” in small towns “cling to their guns and
religion.”
But about two months later when the United States Supreme Court struck
down a total ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., his response was
more careful.
“I have always believed that the Second Amendment protects the rights
of individuals to bear arms, but I also identify with the need for
crime-ravaged communities to save their children from the violence
that plagues our streets through common-sense, effective safety
measures,” he said then.
He noted that conservative Justice Anton Scalia acknowledged that the
right to bear arms is “not absolute and subject to reasonable
regulations enacted by local communities to keep their streets safe.”
Last month The New York Times editorially criticized the Obama White
House for failing to advance a “badly overdue push for sensible gun
control,” noting it “has not been a profile in courage.”
Bell City Gun Club President Walt Sinnott also pointed to Obama’s
recent signing of a bill that would allow assembled guns in national
parks.
“He’s obviously not as anti-gun as some of his counterparts,” Bell
said.
But he also said that most people believe Obama’s presidency is likely
to lead to tightened legislation including bans on some types of guns
now readily available — which is driving sales of all types of weapons
through the roof.
“There’s a huge fear factor going on now,” said Sinnott who has been a
gun enthusiast for 30 years. “There’s a fear of government trying to
regulate what people can now legally own. It’s literally leaving
shortages in all the items that you need to reload a gun. Primer and
powder are getting harder to buy because even if a shop gets in 1,000
items by the end of the day, it’s all gone.”
Do you really thing they are preparing to be a part of Obama's
AmeriCorps???

Highly doubtful.



Obamas nothing but a sharp dressed pimp .

As Ive stated before , Obamas pushing of the Poverty act is the ultimate
statement on where he stands on guns. It requires regional disarnament of
small arms. The region is to be decided by the UN.
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